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Saturday, January 15, 2005 Casualty Figures. From the Pentagon as of January 14th 2005,figures have been
released at some 1361 U.S personnel killed and just over 10,000
wounded from the Iraq war and occupation.Is this a true
reflection of the actual casualties or a manipulation of the
figures ? The Iraq war from its inception was domestically and
internationally unpopular especially as it went specifically
against the will of the United Nations regarding pre-emptive war
on the grounds of so called WMDs.The first casualty of war is
always the truth.The war itself was instigated by the
Neoconservatives in the U.S and it is they who control the
Pentagon and military administration,Mr Rumsfield and Mr
Wolfowitz themselves have control of the information flow out of
Iraq,that will be inclusive of casualty figures released by
Centcom.Is it in their interest to manipulate casualty flows ? In
my opinion, most definately,purely on the reasons that the higher
the casualties the greater the resolve of Americas domestic
population, starting to not only question the Iraq invasion but
also the occupation and the reasons why America is still in
Iraq,a hardening of public opinion against occupation and grounds
to call the troops home.The greater the casualties the louder the
voices will become to withdraw.This will in effect forclose on
the PNAC doctrine of pre-emptive wars around the world,which is
the Neocons dream.Much is at stake for them.The true casualty
figures will only be known by those at the Pentagon and a few
selected personnel.Gauging previous articles and statements made
from various individulas and organisations since March
2003,casualty figures can be pieced together to give a truer
reflection on what the real cost in servicemans lives are. In November 2003 a Surgeon at the Ramstein medical base in
Germany stated that it had received 9,500 casualties from Iraq
needing surgery including over 3000 amputations.In the same month
a chief administrator at Baghdad airport stated that it had
shipped out around 22,000 injured servicemen and women.In April
2004 the Veterans association stated that it had received 26,633
disability claims from servicemen returning from Iraq.Two months
later on the Mcglochlin political show aired by CNN,discussion
was on a casualty figure centred around 27,000.That in its own
confirms the other statistics given above.From various blogs and
articles from surgeons,doctors and medical staff,it seems they
were dealing with around 50 casualties a day,somewhere in the
region of 1,500 a month.Now here is where i have to start
speculating and peice the information together as Sherlock Holmes
would do.Since April 2004 Najaf exploded in violence twice and
the same can be said for Fallujah each incident taking
approximately a month to contain.Both Najaf and Fallujah caused
extensive resistance not only too those areas but extended out to
other areas in Iraq,so that from that, there would be an increase
in casualties,i would put it at double the average,around 3,000
each for these 4 months totaling 12,000 casualties.From April
2004 to today January 2005 is ten months,using the template
average of 1,500 casualties per month is 15,000 and adding a
further 1,500 casualties per month for those four explosive
months in Najaf and Fallujah gives a further 6,000.Therefore that
leaves a total of 21,000 casualties from April 2004 to date,add
that to the Veterans association figures of 26,633 casualties pre
April 2004 giving a total of 48,000 casualties.Using a rough
guide of 1 soldier killed for every 8 wounded gives a figure of
6,000 killed. In my opinion the true casualty figures of Iraq is around 6,000
servicemen killed and 48,000 wounded.Totaling 54,000.If my
figures are accurate then the pentagon is only reporting,making
public 20% of the casualties.Many people will state this can not
be possible.They cannot hide that ammount.Vietnam was a good
reflection initially 6,000 Kia were reported later that rose to
58,000 and later a further 40,000 were deemed missing in
action.So if Vietnam is anything to judge,then most certainly
casualty figures are manipulated for public consumption.
Posted by Bluesky
I just received this message and am passing it along. Don't you
wonder how many of our troops are REALLY dead? How many died, not
from combat, but from radiation poisoning? We don't seem to get
any numbers on those deaths.
US Iraq Casualties Projected At 6,000 Dead, 48,000 Wounded
Ya' just gotta' wonder how long it'll be for all those gung-ho
arm chair generals out there who support the half wit in the
White House are going to sheepishly admit they screwed up. When
the figure reaches 12,000 dead? When their grandchilddren are
drafted and killed? When.
Somebody needs to tell President Half Wit that there's no winning
a "war" on terror. Terrorists are guerrillas. You can't beat
guerrillas. You can, however, address what made them guerrillas,
sit at a peace table and work things out.
"Oh we knew there were no weapons of mass destruction, we
knew. We're not stupid."
Abu Abdul Shamir:
"Then why did you attack my country? Why?"
"'mericans like to drive SUVs and Hummers. You guys had
oil. Tough luck."
"But you've killed countless people in my country!
Women, children, old people. You've tainted our soil with your
uranium ~ they call it depleted, but it isn't. It has crippled
our soil with radiation that will last forever, causing our
babies to be born deformed . . . You'd do this to human beings in
order to drive big cars?"
"Listen buddy, it goes deeper than that. Get it ~ I just
made a joke! 'Deeper' and 'oil' ~ get it? Anyway, let me get
right to the point. You're ragheads, and ragheads attacked our
buildings in New York City, see; so all ragheads don't mean ...
"With all due respect, we all know that you planned
and executed those maneuvers on 9/11 yourselves. Americans may
not know it, but the whole rest of the world does. We've done
nothing to you."
"All right, that does it, we're outa' here!" Turns and
calls out: "Jenkins, call for my 'chopper!"
"Name's Renkins, Mr. President."
"Renkins Jenkins, what the hell's the difference? Come on,
let's go home. Let's just blow Baghdad off the map; we'll show